Comments on: hand signals? http://www.mikepassaro.com/2009/08/03/hand-signals/ :: guitarist :: drummer :: worship leader :: Christ Be All :: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:01:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jason http://www.mikepassaro.com/2009/08/03/hand-signals/comment-page-1/#comment-3880 Jason Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:19:48 +0000 http://www.mikepassaro.com/?p=458#comment-3880 great point Nathan. great point Nathan.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.mikepassaro.com/2009/08/03/hand-signals/comment-page-1/#comment-3879 Nathan Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:13:05 +0000 http://www.mikepassaro.com/?p=458#comment-3879 Mike, great point on the band and congregation being one. I have to confess that I tend to separate them in my thinking alot. One thing that did come to mind: a worship leader I respect alot once said (about the band), "We are leaders. We're not effected by what the congregation does...whether they choose to worship or stand there with their arms crossed." In other words, sometimes your "audience" isn't a group that is used to worshipping in a corporate setting. I've traveled a bit with worship teams and often on the first night of a weekend conference or a camp no one knows what to expect, and sometimes they lock up or stand there with "deer in the headlights" look. That's ok...but the worship team still has to worship as if there were thousands people there who were "hooked up" with them. I guess what I'm trying to say is sometimes the band and congregation aren't on the same page. Its times like those when having the band run like a well-oiled machine (so to speak) can help the people enter in. Mike, great point on the band and congregation being one. I have to confess that I tend to separate them in my thinking alot. One thing that did come to mind: a worship leader I respect alot once said (about the band), “We are leaders. We’re not effected by what the congregation does…whether they choose to worship or stand there with their arms crossed.” In other words, sometimes your “audience” isn’t a group that is used to worshipping in a corporate setting. I’ve traveled a bit with worship teams and often on the first night of a weekend conference or a camp no one knows what to expect, and sometimes they lock up or stand there with “deer in the headlights” look. That’s ok…but the worship team still has to worship as if there were thousands people there who were “hooked up” with them. I guess what I’m trying to say is sometimes the band and congregation aren’t on the same page. Its times like those when having the band run like a well-oiled machine (so to speak) can help the people enter in.

]]> By: Jason http://www.mikepassaro.com/2009/08/03/hand-signals/comment-page-1/#comment-3878 Jason Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:35:52 +0000 http://www.mikepassaro.com/?p=458#comment-3878 Mike, great post. At Visio Dei (and in any corporate worship environment) we constantly remind ourselves of the Excellence vs. Authenticity value system. I think you can have excellence while you're being authentic but I agree with you... we have to check our values and ask the "why" are we doing something. Surely none of us would say our craft isnt important but I love the idea of not separating band and congregation. It's an us question. Not to mention I have a hunch that if someone is a Christ follower we can lead them astray by focusing too much on excellence and if someone isnt a Christ follower then they are gonna smell (in)authentic a mile away. Thanks for the convo. ps - I love you Mike, great post. At Visio Dei (and in any corporate worship environment) we constantly remind ourselves of the Excellence vs. Authenticity value system. I think you can have excellence while you’re being authentic but I agree with you… we have to check our values and ask the “why” are we doing something. Surely none of us would say our craft isnt important but I love the idea of not separating band and congregation. It’s an us question. Not to mention I have a hunch that if someone is a Christ follower we can lead them astray by focusing too much on excellence and if someone isnt a Christ follower then they are gonna smell (in)authentic a mile away. Thanks for the convo. ps – I love you

]]> By: TouchFeelLose http://www.mikepassaro.com/2009/08/03/hand-signals/comment-page-1/#comment-3877 TouchFeelLose Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:24:02 +0000 http://www.mikepassaro.com/?p=458#comment-3877 The reality is that people who aren't interested in worship will find their distraction in anything. They're looking for the it. They want the diversion - even in the most flawless shows. I know because I go there more often than I'd like. The people who are looking for Christ, and who want to experience Him with you - those people won't be distracted. Your music and leadership becomes a vehicle and a tool to get to Christ, not the worship itself. That all happens in the heart. It's a blueprint - not the finished house. I know, I know - long, babbling answer. The reality is that people who aren’t interested in worship will find their distraction in anything. They’re looking for the it. They want the diversion – even in the most flawless shows. I know because I go there more often than I’d like. The people who are looking for Christ, and who want to experience Him with you – those people won’t be distracted. Your music and leadership becomes a vehicle and a tool to get to Christ, not the worship itself. That all happens in the heart. It’s a blueprint – not the finished house.

I know, I know – long, babbling answer.

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